some thoughts on boat-WEIGHT.......
Posted: Mon Sep 26, 2011 4:54 pm
...brought over from another thread
.my initial comment.........''weighed the trailer when the boat was off,,,,so my weights are....1550lbs gross,,,,trailer=687lbs,,,,boatweight=~863lbs with sails and all sailing equiptment...from looking at the boat's build,I'm not sure where the build weight would be reduced much,,but there's some weight to be reduced with a lighter rudder and boom... .....................if I cared ''
yeh,I guess most anything in the class is exploring new territory!
....I weighed the full boat on trailer at a highway truck scale...even though closed,the scale and display were operable,,and I was able to unhitch the trailer from the car.I beleive the scale was in 50lb increments ,,ironically the scale showed 1550!!
...having just bought the boat,,it only contained the basic sailing stuff,,,less the hatches for the companionway and coffin,,,(I mean cabin) bunks.... in weighing the trailer,,I had just launched the boat,so the trailer was wet. I lifted the tires and slid a weigh-scale under each as well as the tongue,one at a time,,,,,,,,so there's some variables either way in the process,but mostly there'd just be tie down lines and sails extra in the weight .
...I'd encourage builders to weigh their boats at various stages, such as once the hull/bulkheads are assembled,,,,,once the full boat is assembled before/after epoxy and fairing,,,and on completion.A standard process would be two bathroom scales and a beam crossing each of the 2 primary bulkheads
.....I once had a used 49er that had belonged to the McKee's,,it was interesting to see that each and EVERY part had been weighed and marked in GRAMS...interesting to see there's a worthy variable in one design spreader weights,,,and what a difference that thought-focus could do to a final product.Kind-of extreme for our purposes,,but I BET there's be VERY interesting discoveries in weighing sheets of plywood at the yard.
...also useful to weigh different components such as the keel separetely.
.my initial comment.........''weighed the trailer when the boat was off,,,,so my weights are....1550lbs gross,,,,trailer=687lbs,,,,boatweight=~863lbs with sails and all sailing equiptment...from looking at the boat's build,I'm not sure where the build weight would be reduced much,,but there's some weight to be reduced with a lighter rudder and boom... .....................if I cared ''
nortorious wrote:You are one of the few to have weighed their boats - or at least to have admitted it. 863 pounds with sails and other personal stuff on board? It is probably closer to the 800 minimum than you think....
The rules for this class for weighing in are:..Minimum weight in dry condition with all water removed shall be 800 lbs (363 kg). The
hull, keel, rudder, rig, shrouds, stays, and required running rigging shall be included. All
unsecured equipment, and sails, motors, tow rope, anchor and rode, safety gear, and
personal gear shall be removed.
The rules for weighing in for both US based classes are essentially the same..Depending upon what you actually had on the boat, you could end up a bit under! To see, you could certainly pull off everything that should not be on the boat for an official weigh in and weigh it all separately. I hope you do as we need that information as a class. Or rather all the classes and builders need to know where the boats are really ending up weight wise.
yeh,I guess most anything in the class is exploring new territory!
....I weighed the full boat on trailer at a highway truck scale...even though closed,the scale and display were operable,,and I was able to unhitch the trailer from the car.I beleive the scale was in 50lb increments ,,ironically the scale showed 1550!!
...having just bought the boat,,it only contained the basic sailing stuff,,,less the hatches for the companionway and coffin,,,(I mean cabin) bunks.... in weighing the trailer,,I had just launched the boat,so the trailer was wet. I lifted the tires and slid a weigh-scale under each as well as the tongue,one at a time,,,,,,,,so there's some variables either way in the process,but mostly there'd just be tie down lines and sails extra in the weight .
...I'd encourage builders to weigh their boats at various stages, such as once the hull/bulkheads are assembled,,,,,once the full boat is assembled before/after epoxy and fairing,,,and on completion.A standard process would be two bathroom scales and a beam crossing each of the 2 primary bulkheads
.....I once had a used 49er that had belonged to the McKee's,,it was interesting to see that each and EVERY part had been weighed and marked in GRAMS...interesting to see there's a worthy variable in one design spreader weights,,,and what a difference that thought-focus could do to a final product.Kind-of extreme for our purposes,,but I BET there's be VERY interesting discoveries in weighing sheets of plywood at the yard.
...also useful to weigh different components such as the keel separetely.