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Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 3:41 am
by slowpoke
So today I really did go out and buy a mast, a big honker 28 ft long that came off a catamaran. I know it's not bendy, I know it's heavy, but for $50.00 u.s. the price was perfect! Plus it's already set up for a fractional jib and masthead spin, so I can make this work til something better comes along. :D

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 11:54 am
by Chad
So Cal, light air, yule be fine!

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 4:41 pm
by admin
FIFTUY BUX!!! cool beans...wart kind of cat did you remove it from when the owner wasn't looking ;-)

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2012 9:03 pm
by Chad
I guess it's worth mentioning that to be self righting from 90 degrees (So Cal PH requirement I recall), you probably should make sure the mast isn't too heavy (and tall). Much more than about 50 pounds for the raw mast and the boat won't come up from 90...

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 1:32 am
by slowpoke
I'm not sure, but I can easily carry it myself. I'd guess maybe 30 lbs, but to be sure I'll do the ol' weigh myself, weigh myself plus mast thing to see.

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 3:00 pm
by Kevin
Way to go rocky. Any step closer to being done is just that. And now you have another piece of hardware to figure out and get rigged.

I doubt 10 extra pounds of rig will dramatically effect the self righting ability of the boat. The boat floats on the gunwale when pulled over with the entire bottom 1/2 of the hull and keel to help with righting. Something I should try just for the fun of it.

Kevin.

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:37 pm
by Chad
I threw together a quick spreadsheet last night based on a typical aluminum rig with wire stays. The CB is pretty easy to calculate since it's a simple triangular shape that is immersed, and the hull CG is just a ballpark guess looking at the hull from the ends. It shows decent reserve RM, diminishing rapidly as the mast tube gets to around 50#. If the mast is also taller than spec, things get worse more quickly...

RM-90.xls.zip

i550_RM90_PIC.JPG

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 2:08 am
by ryderp
I am also masted - and it's vertical as of 8:00 this evening.

setting-up mast.jpg


Phil

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 3:26 am
by slowpoke
All right Phil!! Any idea when you get wet?

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:21 am
by jray
Very nice! Looking great. As Rocky said, when is the splash.

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 7:11 am
by Big_Dog
I got the chance to meet Phil and his family three weeks ago. With what he had left I wondered if he could get her splashed before the end of the season. His mast tube was outside under the scow, the CF spreader on the bench, and parts on order. The rudder and keel needed paint. I’ve followed his blog and he is making great progress on his punch list (I'm Jealous).

The first or second weekend in October was when we pulled the boats and some years we did it in the sleet and snow. That gives him a 4-5 week window of decent weather. I think he can make it.

PS: In person Phil's boat looks even better than the pictures

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 5:58 pm
by ryderp
I'm taking it Maine the second week of September so it has to be done before then. I'm hoping for an early splash next week. It might not be completely done yet (I'm working on an interesting Vang setup and I might just use one I have from another boat temporarily), but I'd like to see if it floats before I haul it all the way up to Maine.

Re: Don't Dis me, I'm Masted!

PostPosted: Sat Aug 18, 2012 8:53 pm
by Chad
Like the look of the Sta-Masters (from your blog). Coming from a bigger boat background, I went with plain old turnbuckles since I'm not very familiar with the smaller boat gear. Interested to hear how they work for you.